I'm a moderate with very strong liberal leanings. I voted for Obama twice. I wanted single-payer.
That being said, I think he lied when he said you'll be able to keep your plan. I think he knew a lot of plans would be cancelled. They're being replaced with better plans (often at the same or lower cost, thanks to the subsidies), but some people are getting screwed over this.
If we can't persuade people of the rightness of our cause without dissembling (which is the kindest thing you can say about what the WH has been doing the last couple days), what does that say about liberal ideas?
That being said, I think he lied when he said you'll be able to keep your plan. I think he knew a lot of plans would be cancelled. They're being replaced with better plans (often at the same or lower cost, thanks to the subsidies), but some people are getting screwed over this.
If we can't persuade people of the rightness of our cause without dissembling (which is the kindest thing you can say about what the WH has been doing the last couple days), what does that say about liberal ideas?
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